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Subject: Re: Telemetry Policy
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Hi,

> On 17. Aug 2017, at 01:46, Thomas Pfeiffer <thomas.pfeiffer@kde.org> =
wrote:
>=20
> Hi Valorie,
> Even if opt-out for some data is legally and even morally fine, it =
does not
> align with the values we communicate to our users:
> Unlike Mozilla's Mission, our Vision mentions privacy explicitly, and =
we're
> striving to make privacy our USP.

We seem to assume a contradiction between telemetry and privacy. I =
believe this is a knee-jerk reaction. We can implement telemetry in a =
way that privacy is not violated. In fact, I would say that it follows =
from our vision that we should do this.

Cheers,

Mirko.
--
Mirko Boehm | mirko@kde.org | KDE e.V.
FSFE Fellowship Representative, FSFE Team Germany
Qt Certified Specialist and Trainer
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class=3D"">Hi,&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 17. Aug 2017, at 01:46, =
Thomas Pfeiffer &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:thomas.pfeiffer@kde.org" =
class=3D"">thomas.pfeiffer@kde.org</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; =
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float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Hi =
Valorie,</span><br style=3D"font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
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-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: =
inline !important;" class=3D"">Even if opt-out for some data is legally =
and even morally fine, it does not<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; =
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline =
!important;" class=3D"">align with the values we communicate to our =
users:</span><br style=3D"font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: =
inline !important;" class=3D"">Unlike Mozilla's Mission, our Vision =
mentions privacy explicitly, and we're<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; =
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline =
!important;" class=3D"">striving to make privacy our USP.</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; =
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D""></div></blockquote><br class=3D""></div><div>We seem to =
assume a contradiction between telemetry and privacy. I believe this is =
a knee-jerk reaction. We can implement telemetry in a way that privacy =
is not violated. In fact, I would say that it follows from our vision =
that we should do this.</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>Mirko.</div><div class=3D"">
<div style=3D"orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
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after-white-space;" class=3D"">--&nbsp;<br class=3D""></div><div =
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auto; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Mirko Boehm | <a =
href=3D"mailto:mirko@kde.org" class=3D"">mirko@kde.org</a> | KDE e.V.<br =
class=3D"">FSFE Fellowship Representative, FSFE Team Germany<br =
class=3D"">Qt Certified Specialist and Trainer<br class=3D"">Request a =
meeting: <a href=3D"https://doodle.com/mirkoboehm" =
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