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([2a02:8109:a4bf:e114:30bf:9873:2660:a4a8]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r29sm1790792edi.85.2017.08.17.08.38.52 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 17 Aug 2017 08:38:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Mirko Boehm - KDE Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_1637D59B-BBA3-401E-A7A5-3514665481AD"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 17:38:52 +0200 Subject: Re: Telemetry Policy In-Reply-To: <5231282.Ch11jfsTMl@lenovo> To: informing about and discussing non-technical community topics References: <2048912.XfIJe3ZSdj@vkpc5> <2990543.KVDkBByYO0@minixfox> <5231282.Ch11jfsTMl@lenovo> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-BeenThere: kde-community@kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list Reply-To: informing about and discussing non-technical community topics List-Id: informing about and discussing non-technical community topics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: kde-community-bounces@kde.org Sender: "kde-community" --Apple-Mail=_1637D59B-BBA3-401E-A7A5-3514665481AD Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F49D9C7A-5DFA-4D78-8758-C0DB8C98E040" --Apple-Mail=_F49D9C7A-5DFA-4D78-8758-C0DB8C98E040 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, > On 17. Aug 2017, at 01:46, Thomas Pfeiffer = wrote: >=20 > Hi Valorie, > Even if opt-out for some data is legally and even morally fine, it = does not > align with the values we communicate to our users: > Unlike Mozilla's Mission, our Vision mentions privacy explicitly, and = we're > striving to make privacy our USP. We seem to assume a contradiction between telemetry and privacy. I = believe this is a knee-jerk reaction. We can implement telemetry in a = way that privacy is not violated. In fact, I would say that it follows = from our vision that we should do this. Cheers, Mirko. -- Mirko Boehm | mirko@kde.org | KDE e.V. FSFE Fellowship Representative, FSFE Team Germany Qt Certified Specialist and Trainer Request a meeting: https://doodle.com/mirkoboehm --Apple-Mail=_F49D9C7A-5DFA-4D78-8758-C0DB8C98E040 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi, 

On 17. Aug 2017, at 01:46, = Thomas Pfeiffer <thomas.pfeiffer@kde.org> wrote:

Hi = Valorie,
Even if opt-out for some data is legally = and even morally fine, it does not 
align with the values we communicate to our = users:
Unlike Mozilla's Mission, our Vision = mentions privacy explicitly, and we're 
striving to make privacy our USP.

We seem to = assume a contradiction between telemetry and privacy. I believe this is = a knee-jerk reaction. We can implement telemetry in a way that privacy = is not violated. In fact, I would say that it follows from our vision = that we should do this.

Cheers,

Mirko.
-- 
Mirko Boehm | mirko@kde.org | KDE e.V.
FSFE Fellowship Representative, FSFE Team Germany
Qt Certified Specialist and Trainer
Request a = meeting: https://doodle.com/mirkoboehm

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